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Gennadiy

Post subject: Re: GMAT Number Theory Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:13 pm 

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questioner wrote: Please explain this some again in detail. I wasnt able to understand the explanation, probably with numbers substituted. Thanks. If there is any specific step in any reasoning above, let me know, and I'll go over it again. There can be NO shortcuts for statement (2) by considering some specific values, because this statement gives us enough information to proof that n²ª is a multiple of mª for ANY positive integers. However, you can try a simpler case, let's say for a = 1. The explanation is the same, just put 1 instead of a, whenever you meet it. The question itself will become: If m and n are positive integers, is n² a multiple of m? (1) n is a multiple of m/2 (2) n is a multiple of 2 m


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questioner

Post subject: Re: GMAT Number Theory Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 7:27 am 

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Let n = 2, m = 5. 2m = 10 is a divisor of n or 2, but n²ª (or 4ª) is not a multiple of mª (or 5ª).


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Gennadiy

Post subject: Re: GMAT Number Theory Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 7:34 am 

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Quote: 2m = 10 is a divisor of n or 2. 2 m = 10 is a multiple of n = 2, while n = 2 is a divisor of 2 m = 10.


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questioner

Post subject: Re: GMAT Number Theory Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:06 pm 

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In your explanation of why answer A is insufficient, you give 2 examples of why the answer is no, which is an answer. You might inlcude an example of when the answer is yes sometimes and no other times, making A insufficient.


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Gennadiy

Post subject: Re: GMAT Number Theory Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:14 pm 

Joined: Sun May 30, 2010 2:23 am Posts: 498

questioner wrote: You might inlcude an example of when the answer is yes sometimes and no other times, making A insufficient. That's exactly what we do. (1) n is a multiple of m/2 Ex. 1: m = 6, n = 3. Then 3 is a multiple of 6/2 = 3. BUT 3²ª = 9ª is clearly NOT a multiplier of 6ª. > NO. Ex. 2: m = 6, n = 6. Then 6 is a multiple of 6/2 = 3. AND 6²ª is clearly a multiplier of 6ª. > YES.


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dave

Post subject: Re: GMAT Number Theory Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:20 am 

Joined: Mon Nov 26, 2012 5:39 pm Posts: 11

Can you expand on the second point? I understand why if 2m is a divisor of n, then m is a divisor of n – but how do we get from there to understanding that n²ª is a multiple of m²ª?


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Gennadiy

Post subject: Re: GMAT Number Theory Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:44 am 

Joined: Sun May 30, 2010 2:23 am Posts: 498

Quote: …, then m is a divisor of n – but how do we get from there to understanding that n²ª is a multiple of m²ª? We know that n is a multiple of m (in other words n is divisible by m). So n² is a multiple of m², because n² = n × nm² = m × mAND n²/ m² = ( n/ m) × ( n/ m) is an integer, because each factor is an integer. n³ is a multiple of m³ … n²ª is a multiple of m²ª


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radz1806

Post subject: Re: GMAT Number Theory Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 3:17 am 

Joined: Tue Aug 21, 2012 3:07 am Posts: 1

A way to answer this question would be
statement 1) first statement needs to be an integer as n is a multiple of m/2
so if you write it as n/(m/2) = 2(n/m) and this needs to be an integer for it to be an integer we have two options:
thus n/m can be 1/2 > not an integer NO or n/m can be 1,2,3,4,.......> integers yes
thus Not sufficient
statement 2) it states that n/2m is an integer
now separate it as (1/2) * (n/m) and this is an integer
thus for this to be an integer naturally (n/m) has to be an integer which cancels out the 2 in the denominator> yes only
Thus statement 2 is sufficient as if n is multiple of m then n^2 will also be a multiple of m


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Gennadiy

Post subject: Re: GMAT Number Theory Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:22 am 

Joined: Sun May 30, 2010 2:23 am Posts: 498

Quote: statement 1) first statement needs to be an integer as n is a multiple of m/2
First statement is not a number. However you can say that n, m/2 and n / ( m/2) must be integers, according to definitions of divisibility and a multiple. Quote: so if you write it as n/(m/2) = 2(n/m) and this needs to be an integer for it to be an integer we have two options:
thus n/m can be 1/2 > not an integer NO or n/m can be 1,2,3,4,.......> integers yes
thus Not sufficient
You are making the conclusion of whether n²ª is a multiple of mª or not, based on n/ m . But it is NOT correct. n/ m can be a fraction, while n²ª will be a multiple of mª . Take, for example, n = 2 and m = 4. n/m = 1/2 – a fraction n²ª = 4ª is divisible by mª = 4ª Quote: statement 2) it states that n/2m is an integer
now separate it as (1/2) * (n/m) and this is an integer
thus for this to be an integer naturally (n/m) has to be an integer which cancels out the 2 in the denominator> yes only
Thus statement 2 is sufficient as if n is multiple of m then n^2 will also be a multiple of m This reasoning is correct. For formality, just add the last step. n² is a multiple of m, so ( n²)ª is a multiple of ( m)ª .


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fedana

Post subject: Re: GMAT Number Theory Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 5:07 pm 

Joined: Mon Nov 26, 2012 4:59 pm Posts: 8

On the GMAT, would the number 7 be considered a multiple of the number 3.5? I am wondering, whether when picking numbers for this problem, I could have picked n = 7 and m = 7 (since n is multiple of m/2, and 7 is (or not?) a multiple of 3.5)


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